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  • Wages in election spotlight for printers

    With a tight federal election just one day away, the issue of minimum wage increases could help printers make up their minds.

    The Opposition has pledged to withdraw its existing submission to the Fair Work Commission on the annual minimum wage review if it wins office tomorrow, replacing it with a new one that will focus on a “real” increase to the minimum wage. This would likely delay the FWC’s ruling, normally expected at the end of May or in early June, said Andrew Macaulay, CEO PIAA.

    ALP win could mean “significant uncertainty”: Andrew Macaulay, PIAA.

    “If the ALP wins the election and follows through with its election commitment to make a new submission to the annual wage review process, this will create significant uncertainty for employers, including small business employers who take the FWC’s decision into account when setting their wage rates each financial year,” he said.

    Most employers are seeking a minimum wage increase of no higher than 1.8 per cent, while unions want a “living wage”, translating to a six per cent increase this year and a further 5.5 per cent in 2020, Macaulay added.

    “The PIAA has previously voiced its concerns about the ACTU’s push for a ‘living wage’, and if the ALP wins office, the ‘living wage’ will be one step closer to becoming reality,” he said.

    Minimum wage rise “urgently” needed: Lorraine Cassin, AMWU.

    According to Lorraine Cassin, national print division secretary at AMWU, however, the minimum wage has not moved enough over recent years.

    “CEO pay and company profits are at record highs while workers’ wages are barely keeping up with the cost of living. We urgently need a rise in the minimum wage so that we don’t develop a class of working poor here in Australia.

    “We welcome Labor’s announcement that they would make a new submission to the Fair Work Commission in support of a higher minimum wage. We represent many print workers reliant on the award wage, for whom a pay rise would make a real difference in their ability to pay for their mortgages or rent, their groceries, their fuel, and their bills,” she said.

  • Officeworks refuses Anning party print job

    Far-right senator Fraser Anning heads the Conservative National Party. (Image: Facebook)

    A Sydney Officeworks has refused to print material for a candidate standing for far-right senator Fraser Anning’s Conservative National Party, which claimed Australia was “overrun by an Islamic element intent on imposing the vile sharia law”.

    Refused service: Brian Clare.

    Brian Clare, the Conservative National Party candidate for former PM Tony Abbott’s seat of Warringah on Sydney’s North Shore, was refused service at Hornsby Officeworks for a print run of 1000 leaflets.

    The material called for a ban on Muslims migrating to Australia; censorship of the Quran “to remove hatred killing clauses of Whites/Christians”; and an “AUSEXIT” from what he called the “dictatorial” United Nations, which he alleges is “Islamic states controlled”, among other right-wing policy proposals.

    In a statement, Officeworks stood by the manager’s decision to refuse service.

    “At Officeworks, we respect our customers’ right to free speech; however, our terms of use prohibit customers from printing materials which may be threatening, abusive, or which incite hatred of any person,” the company said.

    Clare vented his anger in the local Manly Daily newspaper, accusing staff at the Officeworks of reading his material without his permission. The candidate previously stood for the far-right Rise Up Australia party in the seat of Paterson in 2016.

  • Mesh Direct turns scaffolding into art

    “Getting it right”: Mesh Direct’s wrap for the Royal Exhibition Hall.

    Melbourne’s Royal Exhibition Hall has covered its renovation work with an “extraordinary” art piece, thanks to grand-format printer Mesh Direct.

    The wrap features the painting “Sylph of Spring”, which is displayed inside.

    Printed on a Fujifilm Uvistar Pro8 5000 superwide inkjet system, the 26-metre building wrap features “Sylph of Spring”, a painting displayed inside the Royal Exhibition Hall, to hide the scaffolding from the construction of the landmark’s new rooftop deck.

    Bronwen Sewell, communications and stakeholder advisor for the building, said Museums Victoria worked closely with Mesh Direct to make sure the artwork was consistent across all aspects of the project, which was printed on Mesh Direct’s premium Banner Mesh wrap.

    “Unbelievably helpful and responsive, the Mesh Direct team understood the importance of ‘getting it right’ for this Melbourne icon,” said Sewell. “I honestly never thought it was possible to create something so extraordinary over scaffolding.”

    According to Ed Sunderland, project manager at Mesh Direct, the location and input from the client made the Royal Exhibition Hall project ideal for the company.

    “It was a really great project to be involved with from our point of view as it’s not every day that we have such an iconic backdrop to work with. This combined with the ambitious ideas from the client in what artwork they wanted to use made it the perfect project for us. I think the results speak for themselves,” he said.

    The artwork will be displayed on the side of the building until the end of the year.

  • Roland adds training dates

    Roland DG has added extra dates for its VersaWorks training courses in both Sydney and Melbourne in response to high demand.

    The VersaWorks: Beyond the Basics course will now run additional lessons in Sydney on 29 May, and in Melbourne on June 13, after the initial classes sold out. According to Roland, the course has accredited more than 700 students in the use of VersaWorks software.

    VersaWorks: Beyond the Basics has been developed to enhance the efficiency and productivity of users’ output, by increasing their knowledge of the advanced features and settings within Roland VersaWorks,” the company said.

    Roland adds that 95 per cent of those surveyed have said they would recommend the course. Ash Carver, from South Australia’s Infinity Signs, said it was “a must” to boost productivity.

    “So many features I never knew about VersaWorks, but will definitely explore and use in everyday jobs,” said Carver.

    The course covers:

    • Colour management
    • Printer calibration, set up and maintenance
    • Settings and features including variable data, custom cut, step and repeat, and special colour plate generation
    • Advanced production techniques and tips
    • Workflow automation
    • Overview of new features in VersaWorks 6

    Classes are limited to eight students each, and will run in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, and Perth between May and October.

  • Print21 Issue 1103 – WEEKEND SPECIAL

    With great power comes great responsibility – or “responsibilty”, as the Reserve Bank of Australia would say, having printed that typo three times on each of Australia’s 46 million new $50 notes currently in circulation. Just another reminder of the need to check your jobs before they go to print.


    In other news, Fespa 2019 begins in Munich next week, and Print21 editor Wayne Robinson will be there to bring you all the exclusive info you need from the show floor – watch this space!


    Welcome to the ANZ print industry’s weekend news bulletin, brought to you by Print21 – the people who know print.


    Jake Nelson

    Labels and Industrial Editor

  • Reserve Bank’s $2.3bn typo

    The “responsibilty” typo appears three times on the new $50 note.

    An embarrassing typo has been found on Australia’s new $50 note, which can be seen on all 46 million in circulation.

    The error appears in an excerpt from the maiden speech of Australia’s first female Parliamentarian Edith Cowan, which is printed in micro-text over her right shoulder on the serial number side of the note designed by emerystudio.

    In the sentence “It is a great responsibility to be the only woman here and I want to emphasise the necessity which exists for other women being here,” the word “responsibility” is spelled “responsibilty” – and the error is then repeated twice.

    The value of the 46 million $50 notes circulating with the error is $2.3bn, and the Reserve Bank has no plans to recall them.

    “The Reserve Bank of Australia is aware of it and the spelling will be corrected at the next print run,” a spokesperson said. “The spelling mistake occurred as a result of human error during the development process.”

    The new $50 note was rolled out last year with expanded security features aimed at preventing forgery of Australia’s most-counterfeited denomination, according to RBA governor Philip Lowe.

    “Improved security and ease of recognition underpin the design of the new $50 banknote. With the release of the $5 and $10 during the past two years, we are confident the Australian public are becoming familiar with the new banknote security features,” said Lowe ahead of its release.

    All Australian banknotes are printed by Note Printing Australia (NPA), a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Reserve Bank. The printing process is complex and highly involved, incorporating offset, intaglio and letterpress stages to maximise security against counterfeiting.

  • Mutoh on show at Fespa

    Mutoh will debut its new ValueJet 1627MH hybrid inkjet printer at Fespa.

    Digital print supplier Mutoh will exhibit a range of UV-LED printers, as well as a new hybrid printer for speciality applications, at Fespa 2019 in Munich next week.

    The Mutoh stand, number F29 in Hall B5, will feature a wide range of digital inkjet solutions for different product areas, said Russell Cavenagh, general manager at Mutoh Australia.

    Opportunities: Russell Cavenagh, Mutoh.

    “At the Fespa Global Print Expo 2019, Mutoh’s EMEA team, with Mutoh Australia representatives, will present the latest Mutoh UV LED, sign and display, digital transfer, and direct-to-textile print equipment, as well as a wide number of applications aiming at inspiring print professionals to discover new digital inkjet print trends, explore new markets and revenue opportunities,” he said.

    A star attraction will be the debut of the 64-inch ValueJet 1627MH hybrid printer, which features CMYK plus white resin-based inks and a hot air knife media drying system. This allows direct printing on a variety of white, transparent, and coloured rigid and roll substrates, said Cavenagh.

    “The new Mutoh VJ-1627MH is equally suited for sign and display print shops to produce both indoor and long-term outdoor prints, as well as for graphic companies looking for a digital solution for proofing or short-run production of packaging prototypes or customised labels, even for industrial businesses specialised in thermo-forming,” he said.

    Also on stand will be the ValueJet 426UF and ValueJet 626UF solutions for direct-to-object desktop UV-LED printing; the 64-inch ValueJet 1638UR roll-to-roll UV LED printer for prints with high added value; the eight-foot by four-foot PerformanceJet 2508UF true flatbed printer; print-and-cut solutions; and dye sublimation and direct-to-textile printers.

    Fespa 2019 runs from 14 to 17 May in Munich.

  • Stuff Up 3: Palmer making Chinese print great

    The UAP has been accused of printing its election corflutes in China after campaigning on restoring Australian jobs. (Source: @MrCsandDs on Twitter)

    Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party is printing election corflutes in China, according to images posted to Twitter, despite his electioneering on a manufacture in Australia policy.

    The photos show a UAP sign marked as being printed by Dongguan Jianxin Plastic Products, a company based in Dongguan City, Guangdong Province, China.

    The party is campaigning on bringing jobs back to Australia, with Palmer’s “Vision for Australia” document saying the country needs “a real manufacturing industry in areas where we have the economic advantage, rather than exporting jobs to China and Japan”.

    “The Australian Government must support Australian industries and ensure all policies put Australia first,” he wrote.

    Printing Industries slammed the UAP in response to the news.

    This is not the first controversy involving the UAP and offshore manufacturing, with its candidate for PM Scott Morrison’s seat of Cook, Bryan Wiseman, quitting the party in March after discovering its shirts and caps were also printed in China.

    “The party’s entire platform is about creating jobs in Australia and the guy couldn’t even pay Australian workers to make his clothing,” Wiseman told The Daily Telegraph following his resignation.

    The United Australia Party was contacted for comment.

  • Print21 Magazine: Teeing up new revenues

    Entry into direct to garment: the Ricoh Ri100.

    Once upon a time, paper was paper and fabric was fabric and never the twain did meet. As digital technology advances into the textile printing market, however, the rise of direct-to-garment (DTG) solutions has opened up new opportunities that commercial printers never had before.

    Now is a good time to jump aboard the bandwagon, as Print21 labels and industrial editor Jake Nelson discovered in the latest issue of Print21 magazine.

  • Bowen to Macaulay: ALP VET package not restricted by occupation

    Skills commitment: Chris Bowen (left) and Andrew Macaulay.

    Shadow treasurer and shadow minister for small business Chris Bowen has pledged that Labor’s skills training package will not be restricted by occupation, meaning that print apprentices will be able to access it.

    At the Western Sydney Chamber federal budget luncheon, Printing Industries CEO Andrew Macaulay raised the issue of apprenticeship shortages for the printing and packaging industries to Bowen, and to Paul Fletcher, minister for families and social services.

    “Printers and packagers are desperately seeking apprentices, there’s a real shortage in the industry, and yet we’re announcing VET packages that can’t actually be delivered to sectors of industry that need to employ people,” said Macaulay.

    In response, Fletcher cited the government’s policy devoting $500m to skills training, including 80,000 new apprentices.

    “One of the things we’re focused on is supporting Australians to move out of unemployment and come into work. There are opportunities, and views from employers in your sector are consistent with what I hear from others,” he said.

    “I had the chance recently to visit a productivity boot camp in Penrith, with fifteen to twenty-one-year-olds mainly from schools in Western Sydney, getting essentially pre-apprenticeship training: an eight-week program working on a whole range of things, equipping them then to go and successfully compete for apprenticeships.

    “That journey from school to work is a critical transition in people’s lives for a whole range of reasons, and some people find that more challenging than others, so we’re focused on facilitating their transition,” he said.

    Bowen was critical of the policy, however, saying it didn’t go far enough to address the skills shortfall.

    “While we welcome the government’s commitment to 80,000, that’s not enough. We’re 150,000 apprenticeships down since the change of government,” Bowen said. “Our package is a 150,000 package, which we do see as the minimum to repair the damage of the last six years. It’s a holistic package involving a combination of payments to employers and apprentices to get the apprenticeship going, and a big commitment to TAFE going forward; it’s also not prescriptive as to which trades it applies to,” he said.

    If elected, Labor has promised to inject $1 billion into vocational education and training, including $200 million to overhaul regional and outer suburban TAFE campuses.

  • Deadly China plant explosion hits ink supply

    Ink raw material supplies are being impacted by a Chinese chemical plant explosion.

    An explosion at a Chinese chemical plant has led to thousands of factories in the country being shut down for inspection, which is severely impacting the global raw material supply chain for inks.

    The explosion at Jiangsu Tianjiayi Chemical resulted in 80 deaths, hundreds of injuries, and thousands of evacuations. According to Arno de Groot, vice president of procurement for ink supplier Flint Group, the aftermath is having a significant impact on the wider chemical industry.

    “Government investigations and safety inspections will impact the total chemical industry in China, and will not be limited to the province where the catastrophic accident happened,” he said.

    Supply chains for UV and publication printing inks have been hit by the closures, as they affect companies that supply photoinitiator materials, and components for red and yellow pigments. Michael Podd, chief procurement officer of Flint Group’s CPS inks business, says it will not affect Flint customers’ supply.

    “Our preferred status with our partner suppliers helps us minimise supply chain disruptions, even during unforeseen crises like this one,” he said. “Our customers can rely on us for an uninterrupted supply of inks, though these raw materials will come at a higher cost due to the supply / demand imbalance this event has caused.”

    Inkjet print systems manufacturer EFI is the world’s biggest UV ink supplier. Speaking to Print21 this morning from the US, product specialist Danny Alkalay assured printers that supply would continue uninterrupted.

    “We are talking with our channel partners who supply our raw materials and looking at all the options,” he said. “Our customers can rest assured that, as the world’s largest UV ink provider, EFI is in prime position to continue supply to the market.”

    There is as yet no timetable for the reopening of shut facilities.

  • Fuji Xerox contest looks to the future

    The Fuji Xerox Iridesse production press.

    Fuji Xerox has launched a design competition to promote its Iridesse production press, with future as the theme.

    Suggested design ideas include fashion, technology, cars, and hotels. The top eight designs will win a $1000 Apple Store gift card.

    The FutureTech design competition allows designers full creative freedom, says Roger Labrum, senior marketing manager for graphics communication services at Fuji Xerox Australia, who adds that entrants are encouraged to set up artwork with CMYK and gold and silver metallics, plus white and clear.

    Freedom for designers: Roger Labrum, Fuji Xerox.

    “Traditionally designers or even brands themselves have been hesitant to use specialty colours when designing for print as it was seen as a cost prohibitive and timely exercise. However, the Fuji Xerox Iridesse production press has changed all that, opening up the freedom for designers to develop artwork with differentiation and cut through in a cluttered market.

    “For brands and marketers wishing to drive customer engagement, creative and personalised print gives them this extra advantage. The Iridesse offers this with both speed to market and at a price not previously available with traditional print methods,” he said.

    Entries are open now, and close 3 May.

  • New name and new deadline for PICAs

    Entries for the PICAs have been extended to 3 May.

    The deadline for the renamed Printing Industry Creativity Awards (PICAs) has been extended to 3 May, due to the high volume of entries and the upcoming run of public holidays.

    In an email to PIAA members, Printing Industries national events manager Jacobena Mills announced the new cut-off for online entries.

    “The change has been precipitated by a surge in entries with many entrants concerned that their entries would not arrive in time for judging, given the Easter long weekend followed in the same week by Anzac Day on Thursday 25 April.

    “In order to alleviate concerns around the timing of entries and shipping of entries, the cut off for online entries has been moved to 3 May,” she said.

    Evolution: Andrew Macaulay, CEO PIAA.

    The event has this year been renamed from the Printing Industry Craftsmanship Awards to the Printing Industry Creativity Awards, a move which Andrew Macaulay, CEO PIAA, says is not so much a rebranding as an evolution.

    “It comes from feedback from a number of members, who have made the point that the industry is about creativity. It is massively innovative, it is at the forefront of technology adaptation, and we celebrate craftsmanship but we shouldn’t limit ourselves to that. We are creative people, and we want to celebrate that creativity, diversity, and inclusivity,” he said.

    Macaulay added that the quality of entries grows higher every year, and he looks forward to seeing the finalists.

    “They are a testament to people’s ability to push the art and find new ways of delivering messages and commercial value to their clients – or simply art, in some cases,” he said. “It’s a link between visual communications and commercial transactions, and you can see why it’s such a compelling piece of that process when all you want to do is pick it up and interact with it.”

    The state PICAs will again feed into the National Print Awards, which will be held this year on 15 August as part of the PrintEx trade show in Sydney. Winners will travel to Canberra for the second annual Print2Parliament event.

    “This year as well as inviting politicians and decision makers to meet with the industry – at the end of the day it’s about showcasing the printing industry’s expertise – we will also be inviting major buyers and thought leaders in the consumption of print,” said Macaulay.

    PIAA members each have one free entry into the awards, and many are entering multiple categories, said Macaulay.

    “We’ve had some members who’ve entered more than 30 categories because Print2Parliament was so valuable to them last year,” he said.

    Additionally, the judges have been sourced from printing associations around the region for what Macaulay describes as a truly international panel.

    “The feedback from industry was that they wanted it to be international, and they didn’t want to be judged locally. We’ve used our connections through the regional printing associations, and the judges are all experts from comparable regional markets such as New Zealand and Singapore,” he said.

    Entries are open at

  • Xeikon to launch dry-toner pouch solution

    Flexible pouches: Xeikon has developed a new dry toner digital solution

    Digital print manufacturer Xeikon has developed a new dry toner-based solution for flexible pouches, and has a new director from Heidelberg to head up its operations in the Asia-Pacific.

    Developed for fast-moving consumer goods (FMCG) markets, the new platform first digitally prints text and graphics to a thermal laminate for the outside layer of the pouch, then a variety of different layers are constructed with barriers for protection before they are put together to form the final product.

    According to Filip Weymans, vice president of marketing at Xeikon, the development was driven by trends in favour of shorter lead times, multiple SKUs, and higher popularity of pouches as a packaging medium.

    “This is a prime example of what we call ‘customer driven innovation’. By focusing on this application, we are supporting our customers’ requirements and also responding to the current trends in consumer preference. This development takes our digital production portfolio to the next level.

    “Xeikon continues to develop new innovations for diverse markets to meet today’s challenging and fast moving world of consumerism. With our broad technology portfolio, we are in a perfect position to respond to current market trends and develop any solution required.

    “Our digital printing solution for pouches uses our dry toner technology, which comes with a guarantee for food safety. This technology also ensures consistency and an equal finish to offset (am screen) and to flexo when colour matching is required,” he said.

    Years of experience: Klaus Nielsen, Xeikon.

    Xeikon has also appointed Klaus Nielsen, formerly of Heidelberg, as its new director for the Asia-Pacific region to oversee growth in markets including Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and China. Nielsen said he was excited to take up the role and build on the company’s partnerships in the region.

    “I am looking forward to sharing my years of experience from working in this very exciting region and promoting the benefits that Xeikon’s digital print portfolio can deliver.

    “As brands embrace short-run, digital, fast turnaround print, they can enjoy greater product versioning and focused targeting to elevate visibility,” he said.

    Benoit Chatelard, CEO Xeikon, welcomed Nielsen to the role, saying he would drive growth in a buoyant market.

    “With his wealth of experience and years of knowledge he is perfectly placed to support the regional demand for brand integrity and consistency. Xeikon’s portfolio enables enhanced packaging print production capabilities, greater versioning for languages, legislation and product options. It also helps deliver flexibility, quality and creativity while addressing developing trends.”

  • Print21 Issue 1095 – WEEKEND SPECIAL

    The newest issue of Print21 magazine is out now, featuring in-depth looks at wide-format, heatset web offset and more. At 84 pages, it’s a bumper read – so get started now if you want to be done by Monday!


    Welcome to this issue of the print industry’s online news bulletin, produced by Print21 – the people who know print.


    Jake Nelson
    Labels and Industrial Editor

  • Wide-format stars in latest Print21

    The new issue of Print21 magazine is out now, featuring a focus on wide-format including a bumper textile section and a preview of what to look out for at Fespa next month.

    On the cover is Fujifilm’s new Acuity Ultra grand-format printer, which Print21 saw up close and personal at Sydney’s Cactus Imaging. The Acuity at Cactus is the first to reach Australian shores, and 40 wide-format printers went along to an open house to see it in action.

    Fespa is fast approaching, and for printers interested in making the trek out to Munich for the world’s largest wide-format trade show, Wayne Robinson has a five-page look at the latest and greatest on display and what you should look out for on the show floor.

    Textile printing is a growing sector, both in wide-format and direct-to-garment, and Jake Nelson takes a look at the technology and trends powering each of these areas – plus Wayne Robinson travels to Hong Kong to see the newest kit from supplier Kornit Digital.

    Finishing is a vital part of the wide-format workflow, and Jake Nelson dissects the newest developments in automated flatbed cutting tables, including laser technology.

    Outside the wide-format world, heatset web offset is still a gigantic sector in the Australian print market, and Patrick Howard examines the latest developments at the big end of town, including the mega-merger between manroland and Goss and the success of family-owned Spot Press; meanwhile, Wayne Robinson speaks to Ovato CEO Kevin Slaven on what’s next for the company after its transformation from PMP this year.

    In print events, Holmesglen TAFE invited industry professionals to a “master class” on digital label printing with the new Konica Minolta AccurioLabel 190; Currie Group showed off high-performance print in Melbourne, Sydney and Auckland; and Print21 publisher Lindy Hughson flew to fair Verona in Italy, where Kodak laid the scene for its labels and packaging commitment into the future.

    All this plus our regular columns, news, installations and more makes the newest issue of Print21 your perfect weekend read. Check out our huge 84-page issue today!

  • Labor pledges $1 billion for VET

    Backing public TAFE: Bill Shorten pledges $1 billion to VET in his budget reply speech.

    A Labor government will inject $1 billion into vocational education and training, including $200 million to overhaul regional and outer suburban TAFE campuses.

    In his response to treasurer Josh Frydenberg’s budget speech, opposition leader Bill Shorten yesterday outlined $440 million of new education spending, including $330 million to offer 150,000 apprenticeship subsidies in areas with skill shortages.

    “When it comes to vocational education, Labor is backing public TAFE all the way. I’ve been fortunate to visit about 30 TAFEs around Australia since the last election, the teachers and students are inspirational. So tonight I’m pleased to announce we’re going to double the size of our rebuilding TAFE fund, up to $200 million to renovate campuses in regional and outer suburban Australia,” he said.

    Labor will also cover upfront TAFE fees for 100,000 students, and uncap higher education to add 200,000 places.

    In other news for SMEs, Shorten also gave the thumbs up to small business tax cuts.

    “We backed a tax cut for small and medium businesses and we will provide an extra twenty per cent tax break for every business that invests in productivity boosting equipment above $20,000, whether that’s a big manufacturer buying new technology or a tradie getting a new ute,” he said.

    Calling the upcoming election a “referendum on wages”, Shorten told Parliament that since the 2016 election, company profits had increased by 40 per cent, and wages by only five. He promised to restore penalty rates on Sundays and public holidays; take action against sham contracting and control labour hire; guarantee that every subcontractor on Commonwealth-funded projects would be paid on time and correctly; and create a “living wage” for the lowest-paid workers.

    “We need to get wages growth going again – for workers, for the economy, for confidence and consumption. Because when we boost the spending power of working people, that money flows back into the till of small businesses,” he said.

    Pros and cons for print: Andrew Macaulay, CEO PIAA.

    Andrew Macaulay, CEO of Printing Industries, said Labor’s plan offered both positives and negatives for printers.

    “The VET training announcement is excellent,” he said. “The tax and spend nature of the plan, plus the IR plan, raise concerns about wages pressure for SMEs in what is already a tight economy. PIAA is now discussing detail with both government and opposition about direct impact on the visual communications sector.”

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is expected to call the election this weekend for May.